Breaking Generational Curses, Finding Purpose & Becoming a History Maker with Bishop Foreman

This week on Morning Tea with Coach Kennedy, I sit down with Bishop Foreman, bishop, success coach, speaker, and author, for an inspiring conversation about faith, purpose, leadership, and personal transformation.

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SPEAKER_02 0:44

Good morning, everybody. Today is Friday, July twenty fourth, two thousand twenty-six. And this is your morning tea with Coach Kennedy. Last week, we healed emotional wounds, released outdated identities, and created a lasting transformation with Tara Wisco. This week, we're going to learn what it's like to develop our identity at a very young age from the perspective of Bishop Foreman. Stay tuned. Guest is Bishop Foreman, who is not only a bishop, but a success coach, speaker, and author. Today we are going to talk a little bit about how he became a bishop, spirituality, and God. So, everyone, please welcome Bishop Foreman to the show.

SPEAKER_00 2:00

Listen, thank you so much for having me. I think this is going to be an amazing conversation. Let me just say at the onset, I appreciate you for what you do. Creating these conversations are a catalyst for transformation. So it is, it's more of a notion to do it and to have the energy and the foresight and the fortitude and the persistence and all of that. And so thank you for what you do. I really think eternity, only eternity, is going to tell the lives that you've impacted because it doesn't always show up in the data, it doesn't always show up in the comments, it doesn't always show on the likes. You get more looks than likes. And there's these things that are said that have these monumental impacts of people's lives. And so thank you for what you do.

SPEAKER_02 2:35

Thank you. I appreciate that. Thanks, Coach. Come on, folks. Would you like to tell us about yourself and how you became the bishop that you are today?

SPEAKER_00 2:46

Yeah, absolutely. So, you know, the joke is I came out of my mom's room with the Bible and a briefcase. And so I came out with this affinity towards spirituality and this affinity towards business and success and entrepreneurship. And both of those things have always intertwined for me, and still to do to this day, I really found that that was me at the height of my abilities. I think sometimes we learn to live life as either-or lives, where we are, we believe we're forced to making choices that are fake choices, they're false choices, um, they're false ultimatums. I really believe that life is both and. So my life's been that way since I was a kid. I was born in Denver, raised in Memphis, went back to Denver, spent a good majority of my life there, uh, back in, or now, but not back, but I'm in Atlanta, Georgia now. We moved to our headquarters here. And I grew up in the inner city. So uh Memphis is uh there's a part of Memphis called Orange Mount. If you Google it, it'll tell you everything you need to know. And uh Orange Mound was an area that immediately post-Reconstruction in America, post-slavery, it was an amazing uh area, one of what they call one of the many black wall streets across America, and like what's done to all of those black wall streets that were systematically and strategically taken down. And so you deal with the aftermath of that. And so in that, I saw a lot. I saw games, I saw drugs, I saw a lot of things you don't want to do. And it gave me a motivation to make a choice. Sometimes the gift God gives us is what not to be, not just what to be, because exposure sets expectations. Sometimes you need negative exposure so that it becomes like this block. Like, I don't do, I do not want that. That's not the life I want. Um, being raised, I have an amazing mom. She's very taught me a lot, particularly in the areas of love. My mother is one of the most resilient and loving women that I know. In fact, in this room, we were just redoing it. She's an interior designer, among other things, and she let me this note that says love use. You got her inside on my sticky pants. So I looked over and I was going to say, I said, What is this? We learned that, which is amazing because my stepfather as a kid, he was an abuser, he was a womanizer, he was all the things you see of a man you don't want to be like, don't be this. Um, but there was some good that I took uh from him. He was very charismatic. He gets iced to an Eskimo. I think he got a great deal on it. He was very persuasive. So I learned a lot from him, and but you had to treat him in spit the bone. And so as a kid, because of how he treated my mom, uh, while I learned from him, I hated him. I hated him. I mean, I'm just gonna be real about it. I, yeah, you know, you're abusing my mother like I don't like you. You know, even when we're having a good time, I'm still mad from the last bad time. But what it did is it drove me to God. So as a kid, I was different. I was not your normal kid. And I think many people sometimes demonize their difference and are taught to be like the crowd when really you're supposed to be different than the crowd. It's your there's a story in the Bible about a guy named Joseph who had this coach of many colors. That was his difference. And his brothers tried to demonize it, make him feel bad for his difference. But his difference was really the thing that was gonna make him stand out. So as a kid, uh, even though I was very shy, believe it or not, as a kid, I was often given these opportunities to be in front of groups. So in second grade, I remember it like it was yesterday, smokers, you know, the jelly and jams and all that. When we came to Memphis, they needed a spokesperson because I was different. I was friends with the teachers and the administrators. I wanted to be good with them. Like while all my, you know, all my classmates are trying to be cool with one another. I was like, that's nice. I want to be cool with the people with power. That was the leader in me that gravitated towards leaders and leadership. So they gave me that opportunity. Every time you put me on a stage, I would come alive. You take me off that stage, I could be very shy and very quiet. I remember I had a crush on a girl in second grade, and the teachers they let me go over into her classroom because they found out I had this crush. And I got over there. I'm sitting right behind her, and I said, nothing to her. Like, my crust is right here. Like, I I could shoot my shot and I shot no shots because you know I can just be really shy. But I learned how to break out of that. You fast forward, I get into ministry at 12, start my first business at 12, and then by 21, built Denver's largest black-owned mortgage company or real estate finance brokerage. And then in my early 20s, uh, I'm ordained into ministry, been in ministry against 12, ordained into ministry, and then later on elected, selected by a group of bishops and pastors. So for those unfamiliar, bishop is just a pastor, two pastors, a leader to leaders, a coach to coaches, a general to generals. Every general needs a general, every leader needs a leader, every high performer needs somebody to keep them at their highest. So that's what I do. And that's been true throughout my whole life. And so here we are, celebrating now 20 years since we planted the church from scratch with nothing in Denver. We moved our headquarters here to Atlanta, Georgia, and we're getting ready to launch a new location here. But that that's sort of the high-level overview. The journey has been amazing. Tens of thousands of lives impacted, over 16,000 are connected to us. We're hybrid church of buildings and online. And uh, it's amazing. Last year we saw uh 1,859 new professions of faith and you know, almost 13,000 recorded professions of faith in our existence. Honestly, I feel like I'm just getting started. I feel as if there's so much more for me to give.

SPEAKER_02 8:21

That is quite the journey. I cannot imagine being into ministry at 12. That's such a young age.

SPEAKER_00 8:29

How did you got into ministry through music? So I started as a drummer, and I only got a drum set because a friend of mine, he and I were very competitive, and so I found out he got a drum set. Well, what did I have to get? A drum set. And I got it, and that's when I got started. And I realized music was the vehicle to get me into ministry because I would be in rehearsals and stuff, and it would turn into me teaching and preaching and doing all of the ministry type things as a you know, as a kid, you know. So I I I it it was really remarkable to see how it was used as a vehicle to get in the door.

SPEAKER_02 9:03

Yeah, I I that is very interesting, and you would never think that a 12-year-old kid would be doing teachings, especially to large audiences like that. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_00 9:17

Yeah, yeah. And you know, I so like I said, I started in the rehearsals with the music groups and your choirs and different things like that. Again, I started as a drummer, went from drums to keys and was but quickly catapulted into a leadership seat. I wasn't seeking it, I wasn't desiring it. It's just it's like a fishing water. When you're dropped in the environment that you're supposed to be in, you just know what to do. Versus being in an environment where it's not your natural environment, you don't know what to do. And so I think that's a great principle for everybody. Sometimes your frustration is that you're not in the environment that's bringing out what's naturally in you.

SPEAKER_02 9:57

Yeah, that is true. Because for you know, uh an example that I could use for my life is like working a nine to five job. That is not for me. Um I can do it, sure. But after a while, there's just something in my body that's like uh it I feel angry and I feel and I feel trapped, and I feel like I'm quote unquote smarter than my superiors. I can do my job better than anyone else. That might not be the case, but that's just the feeling that I get in my body. And I recently, well, it's been over a year ago, but I was wrongfully terminated by a place that I was working at. But doing that kicked open the door for me to go into my coaching, and I feel so much calmer, I feel at peace, and and a lot of people are like, you're really good at what you're doing, and it I I feel more energized, and we'll have like a conversation like this, even with like a client, and both of us leave feeling better than when we started the conversation, and it's probably I would imagine how you feel when you're doing your ministry.

SPEAKER_00 11:12

Oh, listen, absolutely. And I love what you say because sometimes it can look like a negative when really it's a positive. Sometimes something can look like a closed door when really it's the opening of the right door. You know, I look at that same thing. Again, being entrepreneurial since I was a kid, I've only I had to think about this the other day because a podcast always asked me, you know, have you ever worked for someone? And I said, in my whole life, when I would, when I was, I wanted to go on the law. So after starting that first business, I got a paid internship at a lawyer's office for somebody who was dating somebody in my family. So he wasn't returning my phone calls. So I'm an aggressive, a positively aggressive and assertive personality. So the type that you don't tell me no, you just mean not this way. Like if I want it, I'm getting it, right? And so, um, and so I just went up to his office one day and I said, uh, he said, Oh, I'm getting ready to leave. I said, I understand, that's fine. I'll walk with you. I'm like 12, 13 years old. I said, I'll walk with you. I said, I want to be a lawyer one day. And actually, I was a part of a program called Teen Court that we pioneered in a role, which is like a juvenile diversion program. And so I said, I want to be a lawyer one day. And uh so this is the best place for me to do that. So he I I I literally said, This is what I want to do. So he makes me an offer on the spot. I counter his offer, I get the compensation that I want. So here I am, a kid that you know gets compensation well above minimum wage at the time. Because I think federal minimum wage sometimes, I don't know, 325 or 425 or something like that. I don't know. I know all I know is I was way more than double that. And uh as a kid, and I did that for a period of time while I was still doing my own entrepreneurial things. And then at one point, as I was graduating high school, I got into the real estate finance business right around that time. I had a uh scenario I was working for a company that now works for me, and so I had to get dressed up to go and basically do filing and collating and stapling papers and stuff like that. And so that was a short-lived thing because I discovered I do best when I am calling the shots. I discovered that I do best when I am in the sea to influence outcomes, and that's not to demean those who do best when they're the shots are being called for them.

unknown 13:28

It's just about recognizing what it is that you were uniquely called and created and designed to do.

SPEAKER_00 13:34

And when you're doing that thing, even when it's frustrating, you still feel it, it still feels good. Even when it's aggravating, it still feels good. Like it's the difference. I bet you can imagine, and I'm sure you can speak to this. The days you were frustrated with working your traditional job, that's a different type of frustration than when you get frustrated in your coaching business because it's it's your fish and water, you're doing exactly what you're supposed to do. And when you find that, there is nothing as fulfilling as that because you're not doing it just because you're chasing a champ, or you're chasing notoriety, or you're chasing something, it fulfills a purpose on the inside of you.

SPEAKER_02 14:10

Exactly. And I really like what you said about you know, when we're doing the things that we are meant to do, and you you made a a reference about let me think for a second. How you feel like you you do best when you call the shots, and I think that that also played a big part of my frustration when uh when things would happen at my regular job because it was out of my control. Um and so then if I'm if I'm quote unquote getting in trouble for something that's not in my control, or if something happens, and if I can't fix it, then I then I'm stuck going, well, that's not right. And then that type of frustration is definitely more on a different level than the frustration I feel doing my coaching, because if I find a frustration when I'm doing my coaching, then I can think, well, how can I fix this? How can I push past, and then I can find a resolution rather than feeling like I'm just stuck and hitting a wall. So yeah, that's powerful. I I uh found that you got the nickname The People's Bishop.

SPEAKER_00 15:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:33

Would you like to tell us about how you got your nickname?

SPEAKER_00 15:37

Yeah, you know, because I love the people that I lead. And so what um began to happen is I so growing up in in church from you know 12 on, so as a kid, we were we were what I call Baptocostal, like Baptist and Pentecostal kind of combined. But we weren't extremely involved. And at 12, that all shifted for me. Um when we moved back to we were back in different at the time. That shifted for me. Like I was like, this gives me again, I'm a fish and water. And again, I've been that this affinity towards spirituality since I was a kid. So, you know, I was like, this is a like this is a fish and water, like this is I'm supposed to be this I'm I don't know what all this is, but this is I just like being in this building. I just like doing this work, I just like it. And so I was able to experience ministry from both sides. And one of the things I discovered was that I was that I had this desire for people to see results in their lives. So I was able to look at church through the lenses of okay, what are some of the things that we're doing that aren't helping people to get results in their lives? So the entirety of what we do is based around results. What does that have to do with being called a people's mission? Because I want the people that are connected to me to get results. Like I love reading the test the testimonies, I love hearing this is what's happening in my life, this is my prayer support, this is what's manifesting, this is what's happening. That gives me a sense of satisfaction that second to knowing that I'm doing what God designed me to do, and and that I'm I'm getting a smile from heaven for that. It is, it is, it is an incalculable sense of reward for me. So I pride myself in that. So I'm very different than what most people may think of as a bishop. So again, just a pastor to pastors. Some people have you know a variety of things. If they come from maybe a Roman Catholic background or a more liturgical background, they have that imagery. If they come from a more Pentecostal background, they have that. So everybody has different images that come to mind. And then you see Bishop Foreman, I gotta tell the story. I remember when we I was coming back and forth, flying on Sundays from Denver to Atlanta. I was making that trip week after week after week after week. And as I was making that trip, there was a particular hotel that I was typically staying at. And I go in, and either, you know, I often run into people everywhere I go who know who I am or what have you. And so that's awesome. And then sometimes I run into people who don't. So the manager of the hotel sees that I'm coming in weekly and uh and what have you. And so one day he says, I just gotta tell you, he says, You, I've re given my, I've rededicated my life to God, and I'm I'm I'm watching you at church every week because I'm flying there while church is going on in Denver, because I've done the message on video and I'm flying to do a live service that evening I'm out. And he says, Done that. He says, I got my whole staff watching you. I got all of my friends watching you. And he said, Let me tell you what did it for me. He said, You know, I've been in church my whole life, this is what he says. He says, but I've never seen that bishop dress as fresh as you. He said, You coming in, he said, like, look at this. Like it was because of how I was dressed, and I was just in a jobbing suit. Nothing, you know, nothing super, you know, super elaborate or what have you. He said, the way you approach, the way you talk, the way you engage with people, he said, I felt like, even though I just met you, like I was 100% accepted by you. And those types of stories and examples, white black toss, so in every background, everybody included, nobody excluded, is part of why I believe people have used that moniker and use that moniker. So I liked it so much, I took it and trademarked it. Because I said that that's a great, that's a great expression for what I do. I like to take what can be complicated, and not just biblical stuff and spiritual stuff, but life stuff. Because I have a breadth, a wide breadth of experience and knowledge and skills and results. So I like to approach ministry from a 360, let's hit everything. And I like to approach ministry from a let's get you some results. And and I love to approach ministry with love. To me, that's extremely important, regardless of a person's background or their present, whatever. Like, love is a powerful thing, it's so powerful. God described himself as that. He said, I am love.

SPEAKER_02 19:55

That is that is beautiful. I really like that. You mentioned that you wear a track suit.

SPEAKER_01 20:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:03

That is, I wouldn't imagine that you would wear a track suit when you go to give your sermons.

SPEAKER_00 20:10

I do. It just depends on the thing. So again, that that's the whole thing. Like I used to be, so I love suits and ties. Like I love being suited in Buddhists, especially if you have certain attire that we wear certain times, certain times, but I like I like what I like. And so I remember um during Bright Path prior to the pandemic, I would typically be, you know, super new booted, as I call it. I like that. I got suits, I got ties, like I like that. I've been that way since, you know, since a kid, pretty much. And so I liked it, but I discovered during the pandemic, of course, everybody became casual because the world slowed down. Everybody's at home. So I got really casual. And I just kept staying casual. And what I discovered, and I paid attention to some of the feedback. Sometimes feedback is good because it tells you how to feed back, it tells you what it is that people are actually receiving from you. And I would see messages from people, and they would say, This was amazing. I felt like I could really relate to him because he had a Batman shirt on. And like, out of all the stuff I did and see him, you're looking at the Batman shirt? Like, out of all the things that I've done. And so, what that really did for me is it helped me to see that people really see you before they hear you. And they're making a lot of calculations internally about what's going to happen before you've ever opened your mouth and said anything. So, what I did as I said, most people don't live in suit and ties. If you look at extremely successful people, most billionaires don't wear suits and ties. Now, I'm not saying that just because they have money that they've been successful, but just for the sake of the conversation. Uh, and so I discovered that for most people, if I make it approachable, and I might be in, again, track suit, suit and dial, it just depends on the day. You gotta watch to see. It just depends on the day. Then listen, because I'm in the fitness now, um, sometimes it's a tank top that I'll do a lot of my content at. And the but you know how that inspires people? I've had people email me, Mr. Forman, because of you, I I started uh losing weight. I lost 100 pounds, 125 pounds. I got into the gym, I got I got off my diabetes medicine. Like those little things that are just me being me are giving people permission to be themselves. Same thing happens with you. You being you, it gives people like I love this hairdo. I love your hair. That's somebody now listen, I cut mine, I've been cut mine since 16. But somebody's looking at that and thinking, oh my God, okay, I can be a coach and do this, I can do what I do and do this. Little things that we do give other people permission to do it themselves. We don't even know it.

SPEAKER_02 22:42

Absolutely. And another thing. That a little guilty pleasure that I do for myself that gives permission, others permission to be themselves. If weather permitting right now, it looks cloudy and looks very miserable outside. But if it's nice or even if it's a little bit chilly, I'll put on my my headphones and I'll just go out on my lunch break and I'll dance in public so everyone can see me. And then like at first I I was so out of my comfort zone, and I was I did it to build my own confidence. And and I was just I was going like this and I wasn't really looking. And I had my sunglasses on and I was like, I can't believe I'm doing this. That kind of makes myself uncomfortable to get comfortable. And so then when I became more confident and comfortable doing that, and having people watching me do that, then I started looking around and I saw people's reaction. They were bouncing in their seat, they were waving, they were enjoying themselves, and and so that was giving them permission to be silly and goofy as well. So absolutely amazing. I love doing that.

SPEAKER_00 23:58

I love that I love that because you just don't know how it's having to effect. I love that.

SPEAKER_02 24:03

Yeah, and and also, like with me being podcast host, we are told that people really respond more and positively to authenticity versus a script or some type of I don't know, generated, carefully calculated conversations or presence. They want real authentic stuff because people are tired of seeing others wear the mask. Like put the masks down.

SPEAKER_00 24:35

Exactly. Because we you know what? I think we live in such a world where we're so used to so much fake that you know people don't the presumption now is that it's fake versus it being real.

unknown 24:49

I mean, think about it, even on social media. You see a video, the presumption is that's it. The presumption, I mean, it's just it's presumed.

SPEAKER_00 24:56

There's a level of cynicism baked into culture now. And so I love that, which is why I love to be, especially when I do what I do. I love to just be real. I'm gonna be me. I'm gonna be real, I'm gonna say what I'm gonna say. I'm gonna always wrap it in love, but I'm gonna say what I'm gonna say. I'm gonna be who I'm gonna be. I like what I like. You know, again, back to the tank tops. I I had a family member that said, sir, you don't want anybody to think that I said, I don't care what anybody thinks about me and my tank tops. I said, listen, I work out, I wear tank tops a lot, and that's where I record my videos with. And if that offends you, you should you can watch something else. Have a great day. But it's inspiring hundreds of thousands of people. So, you know, at the end of the day, you know, you gotta move that way. I love that.

SPEAKER_02 25:41

Yeah, I I saw something that it says, we don't work to make a living, but rather live to make a giving. Do you would you like to tell us how you came up with that philosophy?

SPEAKER_00 25:55

Yeah, so I just believe that, you know, the the scripture in the Bible says you gotta reap what you sow. And uh, and so the principle is this: whatever you want to receive, you first have to release. That's the way of the world. That's the law that governs the earth. Think about it. Everything is sowing and reaping, releasing and receiving. You can't take your next breath until you release your previous breath. You can't take your next step until you release your previous step. You can't think on the next thing until you release your previous thought. If you're driving, you can't go forward until you release. You know, there's this constant release, receive, release, receive, release, receive. And so I believe that's true. And so since I was a kid, I've believed in being a giver. And uh, it's one of the things that we do, and so it's one of the things we do organizationally, it's one of the things that I do personally, and we believe big time in being big givers. And so, for example, we've given away now over, I just pulled it up, we've given away over 141,000 articles of clothing, over 27,922 toys. We've given over 5,000 backpacks away with school supplies, over 215,000 pounds of food, adopted over 6,200 families, almost a million dollars given, 970,000 to be more precise, given uh to missions, both domestic and abroad. And so I just believe that that's what you do. And and if you're always giving, you're always receiving. For many people, the thought is if I give, I'm losing, not so. If you give, you're setting yourself up to receive, you're sewing in, you're repaying. That's the philosophy of life that I have. It's the philosophy of how we run the ministry and everything else, is that we are constantly and consistently releasing to receive.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

Yeah, exactly. That is very well said. What you said that you were giving away things. Is there like uh is that just from the church, or is that is there like a foundation that you have, or so both.

SPEAKER_00 28:01

So we have a foundation, and we've got the church, of course. And so what the foundation does is it really works in the realm for uh partnering and working with uh other organizations, different outreach events and different things that we do from a community standpoint. And then, of course, the church is always uh, you know, always giving uh and doing things. So they really work together in tandem, and and there's no discrimination in terms of, you know, well, you know, we're only gonna give you some clothes if you're part of the church or something. When we bless people, we bless people. And so that's always amazing to see. And so we do that through a variety of ways. And then just as a person, I do that as a person. It's the way I live my life. Like last year, I gave away, I just believe that you can't ask God for new and not release old. It's it's it's one of the things that I think again, principle, you release to receive. And so, I mean, even last year, I was just looking, gave away literally thousands of articles of my personal clothing. And I've done this a few times where I just that's almost like uh this last time wasn't a full sort of reset, but when I I've lost now close to over 120 pounds now. Lost the first 75 in like three months back in 2013 when I changed my eating, lost another 20 thereafter, and I got into fit um, you know, um fitness and all that post in the middle of the pandemic. I don't know what happened, but something happened to where I went to put on one of my suits, and this suit was like, it ain't happening today. I was like, I gotta do something different. I got into the gym or what have you. But in 2013, I literally I had lost all that weight, which was a divine strategy that I had prayed for and received. And because I tried everything swim slow, slim fast, protein power, drink this, drink that, do this, do that, P90X, dance. I tried it all, Tableau, Billy Blake, double time. I tried it all, and none of it worked. Not a divine strategy. Strategy worked incredibly well. And then from there, I ended up moving forward, and I had all these clothes I couldn't fit. So I was like, what am I gonna do with them? And so I made a decision. It was around Thanksgiving. I gave them all away, and I we got the entire church involved. We just stuck off Thanksgiving throwdown, and we gave away literally thousands of articles of clothing, and we made sure because to me, sometimes when people give stuff away, they're not giving it in the way that they want to receive it. And I don't believe that anybody is less than because they're in a valley, they're in a tough spot, they're in a tough situation. So we bust in men from traditional homes, from halfway houses, from those types of situations, men who were just trying to, you know, get get their lives on a more positive track. And I had the privilege, and I used that word emphatically, of being the stylist for the day. So we brought them to both of the services, fed him in between, and and we clothed them after that 11 o'clock service. I literally was fitting men, putting suits on that ain't never worn suits, showing 50, 60, 70-year-old men who never tied a tie. This is how you tie a tie. Let me get you together, let me get you to put an outfit together. She was like, I gave it all. So that's how I live my life that way. And I just live my life as a giver. And when you're a giver, you stay blessed. It's just that simple.

SPEAKER_02 31:12

Absolutely. I I love giving myself. If I can get if I can give something to somebody or help them somehow, I will. I'm sure I don't necessarily make sure, and you know, I make sure that I have what I need for myself. I used to I used to overgive and use give more than and leave myself with nothing. But there there is, there does definitely need a balance, as I've learned. How long have you been g giving stuff away through your foundation, the harvest foundation? How long has that been going on?

SPEAKER_00 31:54

Oh, that's been years. That's been years. That's been something over a decade. We're probably closer to probably closer to you know 17 years, something like that. But that's been that's been a while that we've been doing that. And a lot of what we do doesn't even necessarily get uh fully recorded in the sense that it's just baked into you know how we operate and how we move. So the the the real impact, we measure as best we can, but uh a lot of times that impact isn't measured. For example, what's not measured in some of those numbers I gave you are the year that for one of the school districts here in Atlanta, we literally for their special needs students, the superintendent said there was a need for them. And so we literally we took care of the supplies, technology, things like that. We took care of that for those students. Well, that's not necessarily measured in that in the numbers that we said. So the impact is is always more significant than sometimes the way we're able to record or to report it, just because we were always sitting in that seat and always making sure we do those types of things.

SPEAKER_02 32:57

Perfect. And you had mentioned earlier about when we sometimes when people give, they're not always giving in the way that they want to receive. What did you mean by that exactly?

SPEAKER_00 33:09

Yeah, so you know, if if you want to receive, so what's your release to receive? In the event that most people want to receive something, but they haven't released something. And so that's the principle there. If you want to receive, you first gotta release it. So let's use love. I just want somebody to love me. Have you released love? I want people to be loyal to me. Have you released loyalty? I want people to support me. Have you released supporting somebody else? See, the principle is this before I received it, I gotta release it. So many times we're expecting something that we haven't released ourselves. We're desiring something we haven't done ourselves. Even as it relates to business, I a lot of times people say, you know, we'll start on business. I coach a lot of people from every background, so I can relate. Um, business owners, entrepreneurs, take people from zero dollars to, you know, one of my mentees just did he just cross the $9 million mark uh in a couple of year period of time, uh, which is awesome. Tons of stories like that. And uh whether it's business or ministry or whatever it is. And I'll sometimes hear people say, you know, I want to get into business and I want to start my own thing. And normally one of my first questions is so tell me who, who have you, whose have you built? Who'd you work for? Who'd you help? What'd you do? And if that answer is nobody, I generally say, well, what you're gonna try to go do, you haven't released it into the environment. You haven't released it into the world. So you can't expect it to show back up in your world and you haven't released it to somebody else's world. All these are biblical principles, but they're spiritual in nature, spirit, spiritual. It's not landlock, it's not a geographic territory. It is it exists and more real than you and I sitting here. That's our subconscious mind. And so, oh, so that that's creating these types of experiences that that people are having. And so that's what I mean uh when I say that. You gotta release before you receive. If you're expecting something that you haven't first given, you're you're expecting something that's not coming.

SPEAKER_02 35:07

Right. Well, Bishop Foreman, is there anything else that you want the audience to know about you or your church, or maybe how to work with you one-on-one?

SPEAKER_00 35:21

Yes, yes. Well, again, thank you so much for having me. Listen, we got tons of books and things that we got available for folks at Bishop Foreman, F-O-R-E-M-A-N.com. You can find out more about there, you can find out about one-on-ones, you can find out about the books, you can find out about the church, all the information there. We're good, we're a hybrid church and buildings and no line, so people do not have to live. Of course, we moved our HQ to Atlanta. You don't have to live in Atlanta, you can live anywhere across America. We're being connected there. We have a community that we um that we do uh mentorship for, and that whole thing, my whole thing, spirituality and success, emerging those two worlds. So we do that for your audience. We're offering something special because again, I believe now here's this principle we just talked about in correct and play. I don't believe that I go somewhere and don't sew there. If I go, I gotta sew. And so we want to sew. We want to sew a discount um into your audience. If they text the word bishop B-I-S-H-O-B to the phone number 55498, we're gonna sew into their lives um a discount. So anything they get from our store, we want to sew that to them. That's right there connected to the text. It's all automated. They'll get it. And uh there's tons of books that are available that will help from your finances to evolving to uh breaking generational curses and destructive patterns of behavior. You name it. My most recent book, which is on pre-release, is called History Makers, Unlocking the History Maker. And you, every person is a history maker online cross or boundary break. You just gotta be taught how to do it, and you already have what you need to do it. You just need somebody to put it out to you. So visit foreman.com and check it out from there.

SPEAKER_02 36:48

Perfect. And yes, you everyone does have the power to break those generational curses and create their own history.

SPEAKER_00 36:57

Yes, yes, so beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 36:59

Thank you so much for your time today, Bishop.

SPEAKER_00 37:02

Thank you. Thank you for having me. Appreciate you.

SPEAKER_02 37:04

Have a great day.

SPEAKER_00 37:05

You too.

SPEAKER_02 37:06

All right, bye. And there you have it, folks. If you want to learn more about Bishop Foreman, Harvest Church, Harvest Foundation, or anything that Bishop Foreman does, feel free to check out his website at bishopforeman.com or text the word bishop to 55498. For more coaching tips and tricks or to work with me one-on-one, feel free to check me out at Guiding Pathways on Facebook or Instagram. Until next week, everybody, this has been your morning tea with Coach Kennedy. Take care.